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PostSubject: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:35 am

as the topic says, im interested which battle of WW2 is the most glorius win for you.

for me its the Battle For Stalingrad. why? the Russians fought bravely, even tho they didnt had weapons for most troops. even if the german forces captured 90% of Stalingrad, they didnt give up, they reclaimed all of the city back and even captured a fieldmarshal. in this battle they were alone, Russians vs. germans and some other axis nations. they won the battle, even if they had millions of loses. they fought for freedom and thats whyt realy counts.
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:54 am

I'm agree with you. It was great battle. Did you see movie "The enemy at the gates"? I like it. Battle For Stalingrad. Battle two great snipers. I think this battle desided that Europe was free.

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:02 pm

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I'm agree with you. It was great battle. Did you see movie "The enemy at the gates"? I like it. Battle For Stalingrad. Battle two great snipers. I think this battle desided that Europe was free.

yeah, the Russians broke hitlers army, trust and morale of his soldiers.
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:45 pm

The Russians were smart and retreated to the cold north.
Germany couldnt handle it, so they were pushed back again, really mentall

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:47 pm

well i will always say that battles where polish troops was active were the greatest but im polish so you know how it works anyway look at Monte casino,Tobruk,Battle of England everywhere polish troops fight bravely and decided the end of battle but you know i love poland and i will always say we are great even we was crushed in month by germany and USSR in 1939 (germany ataccked at 1.09.1939(begining of WWII and USSR ataccked poland at 17.09.1939 as german allied))
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:16 pm

Yugoslavian partizans also helped bring down hitler, but the greatest battles our people have fought were nothing against all the other battles.
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:21 pm

yeah in poland we had partizans too but i mean regular polish army in english army and tobruk or monte casino wasn't little battles anyway i hear german officer opinion that in poland they was fear of citys and in yugoslavia they was in fear out of citys so our partizans was great wolf Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:31 pm

I am not sure if you could even say something is the greatest battle in the WWII. Many great battles have been fought, in my opinion, you put the close victory of the russians above the close battle of England. Both have been crucial turning-points in history.

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:46 pm

there were a few main battles that turned the tide, one was el alamein, another was stalingrad. i read an interesting thing that when hitler attacked russia, russians retreated but destroyed everything on the way, forcing germany to have long supply lines

however Very Happy hitler actually wanted to attack russia several months earlier. but he was forced to attack when he did because of the italians. Mussolini wanted to prove italy's strength to hitler so wanted to attack and defeat a weak nation (if that even makes any sense) so he decided to attack Greece. after taking a small amount of northern Greece, the Greeks retaliated and wiped out the italian forces and started chasing after them. hitler then had to help out on mussolini's problem. hitler eventually took Greece and went back to russia, and lost. did you know that hitler ordered the release of all Greek POW's?

i did an assignment on it so thats a very shortened down version

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:24 am

Okay you win.. we dutch were just simply crushed in 5 days, and couldn't do a shit about it...

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:12 am

Yugoslavian army was crushed in 11 days, but Partizans totaly destroyed germans army in Yugoslavia
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:35 am

Hitler's army was so fast becouse their blitzkrieg was perfect. Yuogslavia in 11 days. Dutch in 5 days. France in 16 days i think. (I can be wrong. I don't remember it) Anyway they were very good fixed up. In the start of the WW2 his army couldn't be defeat by others.

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:45 am

yeah, thats cauz all the allies excepted position battle again (trenches).
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:50 am

thats why hitler used blitzkrieg, he didnt want to have a war caught up in trenches again. and its easy to see why

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:19 am

However, he became a little over-confident. Russia is very big, it was sort of foolish to think he could take it over with blitzkrieg in a few days.

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:42 pm

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However, he became a little over-confident. Russia is very big, it was sort of foolish to think he could take it over with blitzkrieg in a few days.

like Napoleon before him....
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:52 pm

he was stupid cuz he ataccked too many countrys noone will win whit whole europe btw poland was defending for 36 days so not so bad and we was also ataccked by russia 17 days after germans ataccked anyway we had the biggest "underground state" under hitlers occupation i must say im proud of it Wink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Underground_State read this it's realy amazing thing also this one it wasn't geatest battle but anyway it's one of most amazing things in Poland under hitlers atacck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna 720 polish soldiers vs. 42 000 german troops whit 350 tanks they defended for fucken 3 days


btw yeah Napoleon was folled by russians only country which occupated Mosscov was Poland ofcourse but it was in 1608-1610 so pretty long ago Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:33 pm

Hitler did same mistake as Napoleon. In Russia is too cold for them. Russian soldiers was ready for cold winter.

For example this boots Razz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valenki

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:13 am

And because Hitler and Napeolon attacked them, they became a major reason for the Russians to hold Europe in the Cold war.

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:40 am

or perhaps it was because they were communists. or would you say it was more of stalin

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:38 am

yeah bazooka is right communism made cold war stalin started it but after he died they still had cold war about communism i will exalt poland as country which had great part in destroying communism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity Lech Wałęsa,Jonh Paul II,Solidarnoćś etc. but damn i am out of topic now Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:44 am

Too, the communistic world revolution was one part, another military reason would be to create a zone, so Russia will be save in the future. Because it's true, when the russians pulled back, they burned the land down, and the germans did the same.

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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:42 pm

Well I think that the Winter War between Russia and Finland was pretty awesome.

Finland, Russia
250 000 Men (26 662 Dead & 39 886Wounded), 1 000 000 Men(126 875 Dead & 264 908 Wounded)

30 Tanks, 3000 Tanks

130 Aeroplanes, 3 800 Aeroplanes

The war lasted 113 days and during it finnish people inveted the Molotov Cocktail (used against Russian tanks). Finland fought alone without any good help (expect the 35 aeroplanes that Italia gave pretty late) and evetually lost the war. Poland offered their help, but there were some political risks so it couldn't be accepted.
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PostSubject: Re: Greates battle of WW2   Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:23 am

yeah true finnish people also can fight Wink i always admire finnish people for that war
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